Crafting Rising & Dusk Kylin

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Victorion, Oct 4, 2016.

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Would you rather:

  1. Craft clean Dusk/Rising and then refine it.

    3 vote(s)
    23.1%
  2. Refine Ritual Weapon and then craft Dusk/Rising

    9 vote(s)
    69.2%
  3. Refine Blazing/Freezing and then craft Dusk/Rising

    1 vote(s)
    7.7%
  1. Victorion

    Victorion Active Member

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    Dusk/Rising Kylin weapons are the most common endgame weapon at the moment.
    To make those;
    1) Get Ancient Ritual Weapon Drop
    2) Upgrade to Ancient Blazing/Freezing Weapon
    3) Upgrade further to Dusk/Rising Kylin.

    Now I hear alot of players saying, that you ought to refine the Ritual weapon, since its easy to obtain, and the refinement enhancement is kept through upgrading.
    They advise you to keep refining a Ritual weapon to at least +10 and then upgrade it to Kylin, get some scales and try your luck at +12/13/14/15.

    Sounds all fine - till a few other players tells me that they failed 20 times on upgrading to Dusk/Rising and another person said over 200 fails trying to upgrade a +15 to Dusk.

    So questions:

    1) Is it truly harder to upgrade refined mats vs non-refined mats ?
    2) Is it harder to upgrade Dusk vs Rising ?
    3) Anybody has a link with ELI5 guide to farm mats?
     
  2. darthsidius

    darthsidius Active Member

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    in my experience on refining its harder to upgrade a weapon that is already ref further more if the weapon you refine has gone thru changes like adding slots it also affects the success rates on upgrading same as on refines
     
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  3. Dreen

    Dreen Active Member

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    refine ritual to +12 then upgrade
     
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  4. mplustravel

    mplustravel Active Member

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    my trials ritual +10:
    17x failed on blazing
    219x failed on rising
     
  5. Victorion

    Victorion Active Member

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    Holy moly thats alot of mats spent. Did you hard pay off?
     
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  6. darthsidius

    darthsidius Active Member

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    Yo swim will you be online this weekend?
    by the way im in need of hg set now so if you got some maybe I can buy from you
    ill pm you if your online later on
     
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  7. Victorion

    Victorion Active Member

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    Thanks all for your input.

    I have decided to upgrade or buy dusk/rising and refine it myself, as I currently posses refine deco, mastery and TS.

    @Swim thanks for the thorough reply.
    I am surprised to see that upgrading to dusk isn´t possible. I thought I´ve seen that possibility in at the npc?
    Also, does that mean Rising weapons are exclusively crafted and does not drop?
     
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  8. Lianel

    Lianel Active Member

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    Yes swim you are right in everything BUT this should be hard not impossible .

    500-700 tryies ? With this drop rate ? You know well how much materials do you need. And another thing is KR stats boses and mobs are going down slower.

    I am still asking if i want to play this game and example make HG weapon i have to farm 1-2 years material and still had chance that after year farming i will have nothing cuz of break or drop rate ?

    And if i will farm it i will get lvl and i won t need it anymore .

    This is sick and GMs should do something about it

    Same as crafting ornaments. Average is 100 tryies so i want to make 4x 13 % to my weapons i need 400 tryies to make it ? Just common ornament (i am not mentioning 13% and 3 % on crit). How can i get so many stones if i am NEW player or Lower then HG 4 ?? So i have to play without ornaments without weapons almoust like vaga until HG 4 and then i can start farming years to get some stuff .....
     
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  9. ReportJinxPlease

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    So thats why i havent seen you for quite a while o.o
     
  10. Dreen

    Dreen Active Member

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    DeeDragon made a +15 freezing then upgraded it to rising and he had the first +17 i believe.
    +12 is a million times easier to upgrade than +15 though
     
  11. TresBeau

    TresBeau New Member

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    And eventually they made the rate very easy (like 15 tries max for +12 upgrade).
    Now I guess it's back to a couple hundred tries...sucks, but o well.
     
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