We need more scrolls like Mystic Arts.

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  1. LastGoD

    LastGoD Well-Known Member

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    Basically same damage because stats were uneven
    Once again you're talking potential, there is too much human error for this to secure more than 1 rd
    Notice how both of these require a linear position to work, so its basically limited to 1v1 on a map like blacktop or chinatown
    That wall reset should be patched but I don't see the point of removing the other options
     
  2. Shana

    Shana Creator of Heartseeker, SF, IAS, BD & CC

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    Yeah this seems like Kingpin 2.0
     
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    Shana Creator of Heartseeker, SF, IAS, BD & CC

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    Yeah that is pretty broken.
     
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    Saiiyuki Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't require you to be in an exact linear position with your opponent. If you notice in the video i posted Aeiu angled and continued that reset in a completely different direction despite him being slightly off center.Mystic Arts k-kG has a sort of AoE so there's isnt a need to be precisely linear. The scroll itself needs a patch. That reset needs to go away and that double combo reset needs to vanish as well.

    Also you can't necessarily compare the two scrolls with the sense of equality you're implying. You can really only compare the reset and maybe damage output of Kingpin and Mystic Arts. Kingpin is a lot less safer of a scroll. That balances it out compared to Mystic Arts which is way more heavily balanced and has plenty of more safer options than Kingpin.
     
  5. Deltro

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    TL;DR this scroll should be a rare and boxed, not a good example of what kind of flashy scroll you'd want more of in store
     
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  6. Shana

    Shana Creator of Heartseeker, SF, IAS, BD & CC

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    So from how I'm seeing this scroll, this is my estimate for the tier placement

    A+ Tier
    Blood Wind Ninjitsu
    Zin Taekwondo
    Zin Karate
    Hitman
    Mystic Arts
    Hawkhunter
    Shoot Boxing
    Muay Boran
    Rage
    Dark Haze Ninjutsu
    Lightning​

    what do you think?
     
  7. LastGoD

    LastGoD Well-Known Member

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    gdfo how is it better than anything below it LMAO it has no pressure tools or advantage stun
     
  8. Shana

    Shana Creator of Heartseeker, SF, IAS, BD & CC

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    A+ Tier
    Blood Wind Ninjitsu
    Zin Taekwondo
    Zin Karate
    Hitman
    Hawkhunter
    Shoot Boxing
    Muay Boran
    Rage
    Dark Haze Ninjutsu
    Lightning
    Mystic Arts
    how about here?
     
  9. LastGoD

    LastGoD Well-Known Member

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    Its too early to judge my opinion right now is somewhere at the top of A tier simply because of its damage with omni grab status
     
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    Saiiyuki Well-Known Member

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    Putting a scroll in a similar category as another scroll doesn't make it "better" than the scroll it's above or any worse than a scroll above it. A+-Tier scrolls are under a category not listed as (1st,2nd,3rd, etc).They are classified by tiers. Not by what scroll they are above or below. Same goes for every Tier category.

    However It's probably not A+ Tier. I'd probably say A Tier. And idk why Lightning is A+ Tier.
     
  11. Shana

    Shana Creator of Heartseeker, SF, IAS, BD & CC

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    makes sense
     
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    LastGoD Well-Known Member

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    Lightning has some hidden stuff that me n branz found that I don't want to release ill pm you though
     
  13. Shana

    Shana Creator of Heartseeker, SF, IAS, BD & CC

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    Yeah I heard about lightning's sudden tier change away from A+. I wasn't exactly sure what changed everyone's opinion of it
     
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    Idk but I do think the bfe version is better tho
     
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    LastGoD Well-Known Member

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    also for its basic placement it has god tier recoveries on punch combo+ not blockable from back making it a near perfect pressure tool, and its kick combo while lacking in pressure is almost impossible to drift against a competent player so basically godly punishment
     
  16. Shana

    Shana Creator of Heartseeker, SF, IAS, BD & CC

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    Does the first punch hav enough stun to land the second punch on block?
     
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    LastGoD Well-Known Member

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    Um no lol only sage and exo combos can do that
     
  18. Yifftopia

    Yifftopia Well-Known Member

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    This is equivalent to the Bayonetta drama going on in the smash bros community. Jeez
     
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    The hell are you going on about? Where in my statement did I say anything about hating urban stuff? I'm black myself so please tell me how much you know of my origins. All I said is that we already have urban style items in the store. Foamposites Nikes and Snapbacks are all over where I live and they're in RF. Sure we can use more but it's obviously there.
     
  20. Saiiyuki

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    Payonetta!
    $5.99 per win! Lmfaoo

    Watch all the Bayo mains get salty when Sakurai and the team nerfs her as hard as they did Cloud lol
     
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