When was the last time RF got an balance update?

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  1. Aetherkin

    Aetherkin Member

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    Gasp
    will you forgive me?
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    LilPastry Well-Known Member

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    Why don't you cry about something actually stupid

    Like snake

    Or tact bow
     
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  3. Aetherkin

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    Why don't you go back and look at the post, those are just the 1st examples that came to mind.
     
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    KizunaKen Creator of Burst

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    So your suggestion is to increase the start-up frames for these moves?
    I don't think they're the problem, you just need to learn to anticipate them, and/or position yourself so that you can defend against them better, even when a player appears out of nowhere and starts mashing the button for berserker's aoe skill, you'll be better prepared because you anticipated it. There's always a way to counter everything. (except Sage Master attacks)

    Short answer, get gud.
     
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    LilPastry Well-Known Member

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    Idk how you could view those two as more problematic than snake but ok
     
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  6. Aetherkin

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    They're just the 1st examples that came to mind when nerf'd but still overpowered/broken.
    Do you have selective reading or something?
     
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    wasgud my niga
     
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    LilPastry Well-Known Member

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    No it's just when I think something nerfed but still op I just think snake first

    do you have low testosterone levels or something
     
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  9. Aetherkin

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    You realize your complaint is childish and irrelevant right?
    "WHY'D YOU USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE YOU COULD HAVE USED THIS AS AN EXAMPLE OMG BRUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
    Basically, go sit down somewhere, come back when you have something interesting to add to the debate.
     
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  10. Aetherkin

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    is there a problem? i aint yo niga either.
     
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    LilPastry Well-Known Member

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    i was just saying it was the first thing that came to mind, you're the one looking for things to get #triggered by

    ill get out of your safe space now
     
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  12. Aetherkin

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    Yea, you came in acting foolish so leave acting the same way.
     
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  13. LilPastry

    LilPastry Well-Known Member

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    isn't it exhausting being so defensive all the time

    Ot : no one mentioned beserker's dash kick that puts them at the ideal range for sword attacks while they are just far enough that regular punches and kicks might whiff you
     
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    You're only adding to my point. There's more room for outplaying with the examples you have given. Literally, just block on both accounts and you can punish the two examples on block. Their nerfed increased the cool downs on both examples so they can't just spam it or run away, allowing for punish on block.

    If you want to talk about "AoE" being unfair, you can argue literally every ExoCore skill that's not a single target attack. We're getting into semantics and your definitions are vague and for the most part undefined. Give your definition of overpowered and what you considered balanced then come back, otherwise you're opening a new discussion that you don't seem willing to take part in.
     
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    I know you ain't giving lip to ya master boy. One more lip and off to the trade slave with ya
     
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  17. Aetherkin

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    Not really, What you pointed out is the defensive person predicting whether or not they're going to use the skill.
    I'm talking about the AOE and the fact that the hurtbox starts on frame 1 and an added bonus for that would be the invincibility frames also starting on frame 1. You can't react to it, you can only predict and the AOE only makes it that much more devastating.
     
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    You mean I have to predict things in a fighting game

    That's ******** fam
     
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    ? you keep coming back why
     
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    Your scenario, you're talking about cheesing. My scenario is the ExoCore itself in general is not broken and there's a lot of counter-play involved.

    Yes, in your specific scenario, even the likes of Metatron's KG-P is "overpowered" and "simply broken", but there's countermeasures and easy punish games on block. The whole game is based on a mixture of reactions and predictions, but to simply call an ExoCore "broken" because it has the ability to cheese is a bit far fetched. This is why you don't see many people using Bezerker and only those annoying weirdos who are always in a running position play Red Rock now.

    Don't get me wrong, Bezerker ExoCore is very strong and Red Rock is cheese master 5000, but they require specific situations and set up for their strengths to shine. They're not overpowered on their own accord.

    Whatever floats your boat though.
     
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