STAFF OF BAUM BUGGED

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  1. astroboy215

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    Doesn’t work with either ele or shaman Avalon
     
  2. Starberry

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    This Exocore is functioning properly. It is meant not to be boosted by the Upgrade Skill gemstones for balancing purposes.

    Please see the analysis below :

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    Elementalist (with no Avalon, 59 STR)

    Staff of Baum V - 184 x 2 (initial), 238 x 4 (in area)
    Staff of Baum B (Uncharged) - 589
    Staff of Baum B (1 Charge) - 972
    Staff of Baum B (2 Charge) - 972 x 2
    Staff of Baum B (Max Charge) - 634, 380 x 2

    Elementalist (with Elementalist Upgrade Skill + Enhanced Skill Attack + 1x Critical Double, 59 STR)

    Staff of Baum V - 267 x 2 (initial), 249 x 4 (in area)
    Staff of Baum B (Uncharged) - 672
    Staff of Baum B (1 Charge) - 1055
    Staff of Baum B (2 Charge) - 1055 x 2
    Staff of Baum B (Max Charge) - 717, 459 x 2

    Elementalist (with Shaman Upgrade Skill + Enhanced Skill Attack, 59 STR)

    Staff of Baum V - 272 x 2 (initial), 249 x 4 (in area)
    Staff of Baum B (Uncharged) - 677
    Staff of Baum B (1 Charge) - 1059
    Staff of Baum B (2 Charge) - 1059 x 2
    Staff of Baum B (Max Charge) - 722, 463 x 2

    Elementalist (with All Class Upgrade Skill + Enhanced Skill Attack, 59 STR)

    Staff of Baum V - 272 x 2 (initial), 249 x 4 (in area)
    Staff of Baum B (Uncharged) - 677
    Staff of Baum B (1 Charge) - 1059
    Staff of Baum B (2 Charge) - 1059 x 2
    Staff of Baum B (Max Charge) - 722, 463 x 2

    Elementalist (with Weakness of NPC + Weakness of BOSS, 59 STR)

    Staff of Baum V - 227 x 2 (initial), 281 x 4 (in area)
    Staff of Baum B (Uncharged) - 632
    Staff of Baum B (1 Charge) - 1014
    Staff of Baum B (2 Charge) - 1014 x 2
    Staff of Baum B (Max Charge) - 677, 418 x 2

    * Analysis was completed in Training Mode.
     
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    What's the point of making this exo ele and shaman exclusive if it can't be buffed?? Are you saying this would over power metatron bow, verm sword and brace of ele? Baum exo is weakkk as fff even @[GM]Toast agreed on getting this exo buffed since Jan 30th but there hasn't been any updates on it in the Scroll Buff tweet section
    http://forums.playredfox.com/index.php?threads/scroll-buff-tweet.46277/#post-445302
     
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    Starberry Tournament Ambassador & Discord Admin

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    An Exocore does not have to be made overpowered with the use of an Avalon Driver. It's damage is increased as it should be by Enhanced Skill Attack gemstones. Your mindset is entirely focused on high damage outputs with the use of an Avalon Driver. The reason why most Exocores were nerfed in the first place with Avalon Drivers is due to their 1 Hit KO capabilities in regular games and high damage outputs in Boss Mode with the use of Exocores like A16-P. Alkane is another Shaman & Elementalist Exclusive Exocore that does not get boosted well by Upgrade Skill gemstones as well, as it should be.

    With that being said, a buff does not necessarily equal to making it as strong as the rest of the Exocores out there. [GM]Toast stated that there will be buffs made to the Exocore in general, which is still being discussed. This process does require our developers to take action, so unfortunately we do not have a ETA for you on this.

    I have read your post on that thread as well. You requested for the Exocore to "trap opponents" like Bracelet of Elementalist. Like other Exocores that enable your opponent to run away (Blood Lord, Aquarius, Destructive Staff), I do not see the point of doing this.


    tl;dr version : The Exocore overall needs to be tweaked (mainly B skill to be more effective or rewarding), but does not need any sort of damage output increase compatibility with the use of other items such as an Avalon Driver.
     
  6. Hercule

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    Is there a way to figure which exo's are exceptions to that Avalon Gemstone without purchasing it and testing it myself/word of mouth?
     
  7. Starberry

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    For yourself? Not at this moment. I can test it for you upon request.

    Just let me know the skill item and Avalon combination.
     
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    Does Blue/Green Skyhorn get boosted by Upgrade Class/Enchance Skill/Upgrade All or any combination of?
     
  9. Starberry

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    Definitely can test for you.

    Blue Skyhorn

    Elementalist (with 36 STR)

    V - 576
    B - 733

    Elementalist (with Upgrade Skill of All Classes Exocores, Enhanced Skill Attack & 36 STR)

    V - 652
    B - 810

    Elementalist (with Upgrade Skill of Elementalist, Enhanced Skill Attack, 1x Critical Double & 36 STR)

    V - 801
    B - 958

    Green Skyhorn

    Elementalist (with 36 STR)

    V - 306
    B - 733

    Elementalist (with Upgrade Skill of All Classes Exocores, Enhanced Skill Attack & 36 STR)

    V - 382
    B - 810

    Elementalist (with Upgrade Skill of Elementalist, Enhanced Skill Attack, 1x Critical Double & 36 STR)

    V - 531
    B - 958

    Red Skyhorn

    Elementalist (with 36 STR)

    V - 688
    B - 733

    Elementalist (with Upgrade Skill of All Classes Exocores, Enhanced Skill Attack & 36 STR)

    V - 765
    B - 810

    Elementalist (with Upgrade Skill of Elementalist, Enhanced Skill Attack, 1x Critical Double & 36 STR)

    V - 913
    B - 958
     
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    Is it possible to stack the two gemstones italicized? It seems to get effected by all 3 gemstones in rotation but I noticed in the third one you put a crit double in the mix instead of just stacking the 3 different effects.
     
  11. Starberry

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    Since it's an Elementalist exclusive Exocore, All Class Upgrade Skill will not work on it.

    I did all 3 different scenarios because :

    • If All Class Upgrade Skill contributed, it will be higher damage by 4 to the one with the Elementalist Upgrade Skill
     
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    Ohhhh I see, I understand now
     
  13. HinagikuRin

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    Could I ask you to let me know the dmg for : bracelet with 60 str, all Avalon and elemental specific Avalon. Also if possible the same with meta bow and verm sword with the same specifications
     
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    Sure thing.

    Bracelet of Elementalist

    60 STR
    V (Base) : 445
    V (Semi Charge) : 558
    V (Half Charge) : 670, 407 = 1077
    V (Full Charge) : 733, 445 = 1178
    B : 333 x 9 = 2997

    60 STR + Upgrade Skill of Elementalist + Enhanced Skill Attack + 1x Critical Double
    V (Base) : 517
    V (Semi Charge) : 630
    V (Half Charge) : 740, 479 = 1219
    V (Full Charge) : 803, 517 = 1320
    B : 402 x 2, 330 x 7 = 3114

    60 STR + All Class Upgrade Skill + Enhanced Skill Attack
    V (Base) : 522
    V (Semi Charge) : 634
    V (Half Charge) : 747, 483 = 1230
    V (Full Charge) : 810, 522 = 1332
    B : 409 x 2, 333 x 7 = 3149

    Metatron - Black Tortoise Bow

    60 STR
    V : 378, 225 x 4 = 1278
    V (Ground Hit) : 225 x 5 = 1125
    B : 805, 252 x 3 = 1561
    B (Ground Hit) : 225 x 3 = 675

    60 STR + Upgrade Skill of Elementalist + Enhanced Skill Attack + 1x Critical Double
    V : 450, 297 x 4 = 1638
    V (Ground Hit) : 297 x 5 = 1485
    B : 877, 252 x 3 = 1633
    B (Ground Hit) : 252 x 3 = 756

    60 STR + All Class Upgrade Skill + Enhanced Skill Attack
    V : 522, 369 x 4 = 1998
    V (Ground Hit) : 369 x 5 = 1845
    B : 949, 319 x 3 = 1906
    B (Ground Hit) : 319 x 3 = 957

    Metatron - Vermilion Phoenix Sword

    60 STR
    V : 648, 760 = 1408
    V (Ground Hit) : 454
    B : 378, 225 x 6 = 1728

    60 STR + Upgrade Skill of Elementalist + Enhanced Skill Attack + 1x Critical Double
    V : 720, 760 = 1480
    V (Ground Hit) : 454
    B : 450, 297 x 6 = 2232

    60 STR + All Class Upgrade Skill + Enhanced Skill Attack
    V : 792, 760 = 1552
    V (Ground Hit) : 454
    B : 522, 369 x 6 = 2736
     
  15. HinagikuRin

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    Thank you for this information but I am confused on one thing with bracelet. As you stated before all class Avalon’s drivers are not effected with class exclusive Exos but then why is bracelet do more dmg with all class upgrade ?
     
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    The Exocore is wonky with Upgrade Skill.

    In fact, the Upgrade Skill gemstones did not contribute to the damage at all. The damage upgrade comes from the Enhanced Skill Attack gemstones.
     

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